The Illegals

[faithofjob777]

I may be labelled as racist for that post, but it is true that each culture has cultivated its own evils.  I can easily enumerate the evils of Filipinos, Japanese, Chinese, Polish, French, and Americans (and the various ethinicities within each), just as the evils of various nations have been exposed by the prophets of Scripture.

Titus 1:12-14

12 One of the Cretans, a prophet of their own, said, “Cretans are always liars, evil beasts, lazy gluttons.”  13 This testimony is true. Therefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith, 14 not devoting themselves to Jewish myths and the commands of people who turn away from the truth.

If the apostle Paul spoke this language directed towards a specific ethnic group today, I suspect that the liberals would be whining that Paul is such a g-ddarn racist.  But it is not necessarily racist to point out the common wicked things that various groups of men do.  We influence each other about right and wrong, and the more we veer away from Christ in increasing number and ways, the more it will show in our own culture. 

But the presence of wickedness does not imply that there are absolutely no noble people in various cultures, for there can be.  In the midst of all the corruption, there will always be those who do have the dignity of being responsible and lawful, even if it would simply be in obeying the mere laws of men. We see it from the scriptural examples of Gamaliel, Claudius Lysias (the Roman captain who whipped the apostle Paul), and certain Persian kings. It does not matter if one is a Christian or not; there are people everywhere ever wanting to break the rules, and there are those who seek to do good and preserve order. It is just more disgusting if it is the Christian who is blatantly being unlawful.  He is like an anarchist insisting his own way, all for the sake of self-preservation, greed, or both.

Jaime

[faithofjob777]

President Obama chides Republicans for giving in to politics regarding immigration issue

WASHINGTON – Hoping to breathe new life into the stalled immigration effort, President Barack Obama on Thursday blamed the delay on recalcitrant Republicans whom he said had given in to the "pressures of partisanship and election-year politics."

Republicans responded that Obama's first step going forward must be to secure the border.

In his first immigration speech, Obama took Republicans to task, in particular 11 GOP senators who had backed attempts during the previous Republican administration to tighten the immigration system. He did not call out anyone by name.

Obama dismissed the focus on a "border security first" approach, saying the system is too big to be fixed "only with fences and border patrols." He advocated a comprehensive approach that would call on the government, businesses and illegal immigrants themselves to live up to their responsibilities within the law.

Obama also wants to create a pathway to citizenship for the estimated 11 million illegal immigrants in the U.S; critics call it amnesty. But Obama said the immigrants must first acknowledge that they broke the law, pay fines and back taxes, perform community service and learn English.

Without setting a timeline, Obama questioned whether the political will exists to get a bill through Congress.

I remember ex-President Bush talking about certain powers as "Axis of Evil."  Two words to both leaders: AS IF.  Or, since I just watched the Eurythmics video to "Beethoven (I Love to Listen To)", I would copy Annie Lennox's mad laugh because of the sadly funny insanity of self-righteousness.

Jaime

[faithofjob777]

Is there a real answer though?  Amnesty just makes more people become bolder to be illegal in the future, even if the civil government pretends to punish those whom they will provide amnesty to.  The problem is not solved if rich and poor men are still attracted to the idea of bail-outs of any kind that can last forever and ever, amen.  We just further increase the population having the same kind of mind.  Physical security is the slave's mentality, in the form of good health, wealth, and all material things.  He wants it at all cost, even if it should mean that he must remain a slave working for and paying into a system of an increasingly oppressive regime.

So the slave is willing to praise a master who will promise so many freebies, and he is too dumb to realize the consequences because he always thinks as a true-blue slave.  Some are just much smarter, and they become rich, while many others are stupider, so they stay poor and even become poorer.  France may boast of her own happy slaves, but that is also for a price of endorsing ungodliness as the new law giving the citizens all the security they desire.

But the Christian rises above all the slaves, as he knows that coercion and bribery only bring more oppression to the innocent.  They work harder, and they are punished more by coercive rules to legally steal from them, in order to bribe the many slaves who will keep praising their ungodly masters.  

But what about the beautiful buildings, technology, and so many other institutions that have provided much help to the people?  Jesus said that Israel would be destroyed, regardless of her own beautiful buildings and false piety.  Rome in all her glory fell too, as did her numerous slaves.  The only ones who survived to lead others with true prosperity and peace were the true Christians.  

So the goal I think would be not to be overly troubled that too many regulations for immigration in America have risen, but that the nations from which the immigrants come from are very wicked.  People come here seeking a better life, because their own countries are like hell on earth.  Those places must change so that people would be inspired to stay.  And the way to do just that is for Christians in America to show how the kingdom of Christ is with great power, not only in personal piety but beginning with it, and spreading to all institutions and trades so that every corner of America is truly being blessed by God.  

Then the kings and leaders of other nations will hopefully be touched by God as was the Queen of Sheba, inquiring our own wise Solomons how we have provided much abundance to all the people who reside in America.  They can bring the same knowledge back home, and all nations shall then be similarly blessed by the love of God for those who obey His commandments.

Right now, the richness in America that all men are enticed with can turn out to be God's curse, so that He can heap much wrath upon her for being another unrepentant Babylon. I am thankful that God has not yet done it, for all it really takes is just one plague or catastrophe killing thousands and thousands each day, to quickly destroy all the glorious institutions of socialism and other ungodly philosophies in this nation or another.  Pandemonium escalates smoothly and quite predictably, because unregenerate slaves do not know how to behave in times of such a great disaster far worse than a Hurricane Katrina.  They always crave security for themselves even if it should mean breaking every law, and not self-sacrifice and order for the sake of everyone else.  They will demand this self-serving priority especially in times of distress.

Regardless of what happens, it is astounding to me that the problem on illegal immigration is not understood as a national challenge that is already solved by God's Word.  If only His children would just become one and take heed.  It is time for much prayer and vigilance to do one's part I know, and hope that more and more eyes are being opened to the real power of God.

Jaime

[Threshing Flora]

NY TIMES: Obama Wins Unlikely Allies in Immigration

For FOJ -- have fun with this quotation by Rev. Samuel Rodriguez of the National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference!

“My message to Republican leaders,” said the Rev. Samuel Rodriguez, the president of the evangelical National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference and one of the leaders who engaged his non-Hispanic peers, “is if you’re anti-immigration reform, you’re anti-Latino, and if you’re anti-Latino, you are anti-Christian church in America, and you are anti-evangelical.”

[faithofjob777]

Love the quote!  How one idea is made to connect to another..and another one still.   Anti-immigration=anti-Latino=anti-evangelical.

The appeal to Leviticus 19 is stale, because those very same evangelicals do not have a problem disregarding other commandments of God in that book anyway.  I would want to challenge how they picked and chose that chapter, among others.

Kindness to strangers is definitely necessary----but it should done by a godly nation.  Not by a corrupt nation that already entices the citizens with limitless bail-outs and ungodly excuses for the irresponsible and immoral acts of the rich and the poor. 

I fear that the stupidity of today's churches has reached an all-time low.  It is forgotten that Exodus is before Leviticus for a very important reason.  We cannot start using Leviticus 19 without first fixing the problems of the citizens from within.  When people have just come out of bondage, the first relationship they need to fix as a nation is their relationship with God.

Which is why we do not jump to Leviticus 19, but to Genesis and Exodus first, to understand the redemption given by God to mankind that is perfectly fulfilled by His own Son.  It begins with the entire nation fearing and loving God with all their minds and hearts after learning the redemptive love of Christ, before a deeply wise and sincere care for the alien and the disenfranchised can be done. 

Since America as a whole does not even desire to have Jesus Christ as its Lord, then how do these evangelicals even comprehend the real way to care for the alien?  As Jesus says, "without me, you can do nothing."  Since President Obama and the entire nation have agreed that "yes we can" do it without Jesus Christ being honored by all, then every act of imagined righteousness is just a facade to perpetuate more evil that further undermines Christ's name.

And as it has been throughout much of history, many professing Christians expectedly fall into that same trap. We mangle Scriptural texts to promote false traditions, without prayerfully meditating on every jot and tittle from Genesis to Revelation.  Since the present state of Christianity is such that God's commandments are either secretly or openly despised/ignored, I have very little doubt that those who claim to endorse Leviticus 19 for a supposed immigration reform have no wisdom to know how to apply the other precepts of God's laws in our society today. Instead, they have worldly philosophies that they seek to prop, and then defend by a twisted use of Scripture.

The worst thing is, they seek to shove down righteousness by picking out little texts to follow, while discarding the rest.  But the commandments of God will only be abused and rejected by men, unless His Spirit and sole lordship are honored by the rulers and subjects of the nation.

Jaime